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What careers are we most geared for?

Damien Fri, October 23, 2009 - 11:56 PM by Damien

Hello my fellow Aquarians. I am 32 years old and I don't know what I want to be when I grow up. Do any of you feel like this? What would be the perfect job for us, or what job did you always want, but never seem to go that direction?


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Rexie Sat, October 24, 2009 - 5:05 AM by Rexie

Yea seriously, I would like to know the anwser to this question!

I always wanted to be a freelance visual artist/writer, however the starving artist side of it was not appealing. Also art is so subjective, as far as societies judgments on its worth..and that part irks me. Right now I've returned to school to study International Development, with the hopes of a future career in IGOs or NGOs. Or the other possibility is diplomatic work, maybe thats a bit of my heavy Libra influence coming out.

It seems, from most of what I read, that they always say Aquarians should be in science, or technology.. *shrug* Both of those fields intrigue me, but Im mediocre at best.


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Attie Sat, October 24, 2009 - 8:28 AM by Attie

I hear its helpful to like what you do.

Have you looked at your other planets and placements?

Of course I'm still vague, since there's nothing in particular that really grabs me and says yeah this will do, so I'm studying a subject that I'm good at rather than interested in.


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Attie Sat, October 24, 2009 - 9:00 AM by Attie

Here's a link that relates to guiding planet information ~ khaldea.com/planets/oriental_intro.shtml


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Attie Sat, October 24, 2009 - 9:23 AM by Attie

Inner planets: www.awakening-healing.com/Astro...er.htm

Outer planets: www.awakening-healing.com/AstoC...Pl.htm


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amiablehermit Sat, October 24, 2009 - 10:12 AM by

My guiding planet is Uranus. LOL. "I liberate."


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Bill Sat, October 24, 2009 - 10:21 AM by Bill

I'm 41, and I still feel like I don't know what I want to be, lol I've always had this dual interest through life...that being music and art. I've always loved music and have played it, however when it came to a profession that allowed me to pay the bills, it's always been art. I'm a graphic/web designer in NYC.

In the months leading up to my 40th birthday, I was going through a major "OMG! I'm about to turn 40 and I don't know if what I'm doing is what I want to continue doing!" I kinda think this was more a mid-life crisis thing than it was about what I feel I'm meant to do, but in the back of my mind, I do wonder if it's the latter as well.

I have always gravitated toward computers, so I know that what I should be doing is related to that. I have always kept up with my musical side, now using software to create my music and writing lyrics from time to time.

The major problem with what I do now is that I feel I am doing it only because it's what makes money for me, not because I like it completely. For me, there's just something about doing something for money that takes all the fun out of doing it.

There are other things I'd like to do as well, such as learning other languages. I've always dreamed of being able to travel places and to be able to speak with people in their own language. I've also been told that I have a great (deep) voice to do voiceovers.

I have the overall feeling that it's not that I can't focus on one particular thing...it's that I want to do many things. Sorry for the novel, lol...I hope we can all find the answer to this.


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Bill Sat, October 24, 2009 - 10:32 AM by Bill

Quite interesting...my guiding planet is Mercury. :o)


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Sol Sat, October 24, 2009 - 12:11 PM by Sol

knowing what a person wants to do also requires action,,,
the passion will give the person a curiosity, effort and desire
to follow thru,,,which takes self-discipline,,,

astrology is somewhat like a pizza, with its flavors,,,
and each pizza is unique to the individual,

what a person liked to do naturally as a kid, from 9 to 11 usually is where their
inclinations are,,,sometimes astrology becomes mental masturbation,
sometimes dreams require effort to be-come,,,


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Damien Sat, October 24, 2009 - 12:40 PM by Damien

I agree a lot with what you said. The starving part always turns me off from most of the things I would like to do. I am presently in a technology field, aviation, (which does make money), but I feel I'm mediocre at best and the passion just really isn't there. Makes me wonder if science and technology is really are route in life. I do actually work with a lot of Aquarians in my career field, but even they feel like they should be doing something different.


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amiablehermit Sat, October 24, 2009 - 12:45 PM by

That's my chart ruler, Bill. lol.


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Rexie Sat, October 24, 2009 - 1:01 PM by Rexie

"what a person liked to do naturally as a kid, from 9 to 11 usually is where their
inclinations are,,,sometimes astrology becomes mental masturbation,
sometimes dreams require effort to be-come,,, "

Very true. Well I guess its drawing, reading, writing...and trying to figure out peoples underlying motivations. Thats all I ever did when I was 9-11 yrs old. Nuu..starving artist life..do not want! ;)


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Rexie Sat, October 24, 2009 - 1:04 PM by Rexie

Is there the possibility that you enjoy the subject matter, but not the work environment..or structure of it? The bureaucracy of some of my prior workplaces had drained all the passion out of the actual job. Not sure if thats the case for you as well.


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Damien Sat, October 24, 2009 - 1:42 PM by Damien

I like what you had to say Bill. I feel like I'm in a mid-life crisis. For the last 10 years. I also have a major problem of doing a job because of money, and not doing what I want to do (which I still don't know what that is either). I did read that Aquarians are most likely to make under $35,000 a year because they believe in doing a job they love, compared to doing a job for money. That wasn't to appealing to read that.

Does anyone else feel that when something strikes their curiousity, they dive in 110% to learn it. Then over time it becomes old. Knowledge of a new subject is like a faddish clothing phase. You have to have it, then a couple years later it just sits way back in your closet and you've moved on to wearing something completely different. Sure you still have it, but it's not who you are anymore.

That's my fear. I hate the term you are what you do. You paint so your a painter, you work with plumbing so your a plumber. Put into a box of life and stored on a shelf with everyone else who does the same thing. I think Aquarians are more than that. And can we really be happy with doing the same repetative thing everday? Putting shoe laces in shoes everyday in a factory, 10,000 pairs of shoes a day, everyday. I would shoot myself.


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Damien Sat, October 24, 2009 - 2:03 PM by Damien

Is there the possibility that you enjoy the subject matter, but not the work environment..or structure of it? The bureaucracy of some of my prior workplaces had drained all the passion out of the actual job. Not sure if thats the case for you as well.

That's a good point. I do believe that plays a part. When it comes to a new job, I haven't had that many, but I do remember I usually have a great first day. I'm excited, ready to learn, and full speed ahead. Kind of like getting a new car. You love it. You say you'll never eat or drink in it. Your going to take real care of it. A year later, your eating, drinking, smoking in it, and never changing the oil. Jobs become old to me. Maybe because it really does just turn into a job.

Managers, for the most part, are systematic and follow the same guidelines. Predictable and no enthusiasm. Sure you can read them, maybe manipulate them a little, but they become draining after awhile.

Which makes me believe Aquarians should open their own business. But that too can be draining. I read Aquarians like to come up with the ideas (entrepenuers at heart), but they don't like the true work that needs to be put into it. Our lazy side. We would do better having a partner in a business.

So, if you had to have your own business/partnership, what would it be?


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exio Sat, October 24, 2009 - 3:32 PM by

"Does anyone else feel that when something strikes their curiousity, they dive in 110% to learn it. Then over time it becomes old. Knowledge of a new subject is like a faddish clothing phase."

This is exactly it. I like just about any job as long as I feel that I'm learning or experiencing something new. Once I feel like I've "mastered" it, or something close, it's done... time to move on.

I feel like for any job to stay interesting for long, it has to be in a constant state of change. That's why I like music and art... they always change with me. If I get bored with playing one instrument, I learn to play a new one. If I get bored with a certain style, I change. There are no real limitations.

Otherwise, I like jobs that require alot of flexibility. I do a lot of volunteer work for a non-profit art gallery where there are no really clear lines as to what your role is... and it often requires improvisation. Whatever needs to be done, that's it. Could be anything from building an installation, to working the door, to tending bar, to setting up a sound system, to fixing the roof, to cleaning the toilets. For me, I pretty much have to believe in what I'm doing and who I'm doing it for. If not, it's not worth my time. And I like the improvisation aspect... guess that's the innovation side, seeing what needs to be done and coming up with a way to do it.

As for jobs for Aquarians... you really need to look at your whole chart, not just your sun sign. But jobs that I'd relate to Aquarius would be anything that requires innovation and humanitarian efforts (non-profit sector, diplomatic relations, etc.). There's definitely an entrepreneurial side... and I could definitely see starting some sort of business or foundation. I don't think it's the work that stops my entrepreneurial side, but the lack of concern for money... I have no problem with working, but I really can't stand to think too much about money. It just stresses me out.

Right now I'm finally thinking about starting school... probably for something along the lines of science/engineering. I'm good at math and science, and I think that'll be interesting for awhile. And hopefully through doing that, I'll actually be able to make enough money to fund something of my own... especially since I've got years of experience of living on next to nothing. Of course, I could easily see myself saying "forget this mathematical shit" and retreating to art school.


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Damien Sat, October 24, 2009 - 4:57 PM by Damien

"I have no problem with working, but I really can't stand to think too much about money. It just stresses me out."

That's a good quote. I do find money to be evil. It's like crack. You love it. You just find yourself doing things you shouldn't be doing to get it, like whoring yourself out. Whether it be in a true crackhead sense, or working on the weekend because your boss needs you to. In the long run, chasing money, you lose who you truly are. Sure you might not end up in a old abandoned crack house, but you still feel like life has passed you by. At least that's how I feel.

Why is it that society has put such a big deal into making money? What kind of car you drive, how big is your house. Maybe that's why society has the problems it has. We're all crackheads whoring ourselves out to the highest bidder. It seems Corporate America is the Devil, and we can't escape it's grasp on us.

Anyway, I do envy Aquarius' who love their job. That's my search now in life. My pot of gold at the end of the rainbow. They say Aquarius' are 50 years ahead of their time. I just want to know what I should be doing now. I have been told that in the first part of life, you do what you have to do. In the second part, you do what you want to do. Thanks for your post Exio.


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Rexie Sat, October 24, 2009 - 6:12 PM by Rexie

"Why is it that society has put such a big deal into making money? What kind of car you drive, how big is your house. Maybe that's why society has the problems it has. We're all crackheads whoring ourselves out to the highest bidder. It seems Corporate America is the Devil, and we can't escape it's grasp on us."

I use to have a big problem with $ as well, and what it symbolized for me..which is the same as how you described it, base, superficial, meaningless. A fugazi representation of life success. But I've really come to terms with it. My current thought process on it is, 1) No matter what, money is a necessary utility in life, 2) I cant allow this aversion to my notions of what money symbolizes to ruin my pursuit of my ideals (be it dream job, or side project), 3) Being the individual that I am, I dont have glorify money as others do. Just because most people do, doesnt mean I have to..I can choose how I interpret this green paper, 4) There is one aspect of $ that I do like, the freedom it affords me. We all like to think freedom is a given, but its not. Now I can understand why society uses $ to judge our worth.. it is a very flawed method, but nevertheless it is the method...and if I want this precious freedom I will have to learn to communicate this properly to society, and reflect their value systems (even though those arent my own value systems, but who cares, as long as I get my precious freedom!)

Have any other Aquarians felt that their value systems differ from mainstream societies, so then theres this disconnect? When I was younger I didnt understand a lot of basic and fundamental values that people based their opinions on, and in turn they didnt understand where the heck I was coming from either.


"Anyway, I do envy Aquarius' who love their job. That's my search now in life. My pot of gold at the end of the rainbow. They say Aquarius' are 50 years ahead of their time. I just want to know what I should be doing now."

Well any job gets old after awhile, just like relationships, and new cities that you relocate too. Thats the definition for old, something thats been around for a long time. So I think its impossible to avoid that point with anything, however what we choose to do afterwards is whats important. Maybe you can liven up your job by pursuing a new project, or focus...discuss it with your management. Or you can have an outside hobby. Since we're multifaceted creatures, its probably impossible to be satisfied with just one thing..but people think it should be that way..ex: I have one true love, and that person will satisfy all my needs, or I have a job I love in everyway and it will satisfy all my needs. I think usually it takes a range of activities and people to satisfy our many sides, and to keep us fresh and enlivened. Oh, maybe you can take a night course in a subject of your interest..you can possibly be building a new career out of it, or starting a new hobby.

"I have been told that in the first part of life, you do what you have to do. In the second part, you do what you want to do."

We all have different speeds in life, probably dont get too hung up on that idea, and base your current situation on it, that probably will impede your success in finding what is right for you if you compare your life to others. Also quite frankly who cares where anyone else is at in their life.


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Rexie Sat, October 24, 2009 - 6:19 PM by Rexie

"Which makes me believe Aquarians should open their own business. But that too can be draining. I read Aquarians like to come up with the ideas (entrepenuers at heart), but they don't like the true work that needs to be put into it. Our lazy side. We would do better having a partner in a business.

Haha, we're lazy! We like the glory of initiation, but not the burden of follow through! LOL Its so funny because it really rings true for me.

So, if you had to have your own business/partnership, what would it be? "

My best friend and I always joke that when we are old, we'll move away to some random city and open a divey coffee shop together. Ahh that sounds nice. He's a (virgo rising, cancer sun, moon in taurus) so he has the follow through down, with all his grounding earth influences, and nuturing empathic cancerian side, and Im (scorpio rising, aquarius sun, libra moon), full of random ideas, somewhat mean, but very diplomatic. Yea yea, contradiction.. He's my ideal business partner, we actually met while working together, and have a great work and personal dynamic.


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Damien Sat, October 24, 2009 - 7:38 PM by Damien

"Have any other Aquarians felt that their value systems differ from mainstream societies, so then theres this disconnect? When I was younger I didnt understand a lot of basic and fundamental values that people based their opinions on, and in turn they didnt understand where the heck I was coming from either."

Rexie, this is an interesting question. I would like to know more specifically what you thought about the value system and what your opinions were. How did you base your opinions that were different from others?

I too agree that money equals freedom. Sometimes that's the race we seem to be in. Not for the purpose of who has the most at the end wins. Just for the purposes of not being a slave. Funny how money does enslave us. It seems funny that there's two ends to the extreme when it comes to freedom. On one end you can be totally flat broke, homeless, and live under a bridge. No responsibility, no cares, and freedom to do whatever. Then you can be totally rich. No responsibility, no cares, and freedom to do whatever.


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Attie Sat, October 24, 2009 - 9:37 PM by Attie

Is there something unsavory about responsibility, cares, and not doing whatever?


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Bill Sat, October 24, 2009 - 11:36 PM by Bill

«For me, I pretty much have to believe in what I'm doing and who I'm doing it for. If not, it's not worth my time.»

OMG! Exio, I could not agree with this more. I have had jobs where my heart was just not into what was going on or who I was doing it for, therefore I quickly (or not so quickly) made my departure. If my employer didn't show any appreciation for what I was doing for them, I was outta there. I'm so glad to hear this, and to know that I wasn't some sort of outcast or something back then. I totally need to stay interested in what's going on, as well. Music and art definitely maintains my interest, too...very fluid, always changing. :-D


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Damien Sat, October 24, 2009 - 11:47 PM by Damien

"If my employer didn't show any appreciation for what I was doing for them, I was outta there."

That is another great point Bill. Employers that I've had never seem to show appreciation. I don't believe they should kiss you ass, but don't treat me like a number. They feel they can get rid of you and find someone who looks just like you as soon as you walk out the door. I hate that!



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Sol Sun, October 25, 2009 - 11:54 AM by Sol

then employ your self,,,what would you do if you had a company
and employees and they started doing something that wasn't up
to "company standards" whatever that is,,,,if you don't like a company then leave,,,

aquarians seem to dream up things and the follow up is difficult, because that requires actual effort,

an interest takes time to master,,,and the fuel that keeps it going is effort, curiosity, and desire,,,
if you give up or find something else to grab your attention then thats up to the individual,,,
we are all authors of our own lives,,,

and there are opportunities, tho it sometimes means
doing something that actually makes a person expand their known boundaries, such as
re-locating or finding someone to learn from, without having an attitude, and
a feeling that the universe owes you something,,,


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exio Sun, October 25, 2009 - 2:11 PM by

Sounds like you've been watching too many Nike commercials, Sol.

I'm bored with that kind of pseudo-intellectual babble that seems to have taken up most of tribe (and California)... i.e., "You create your own reality".

That philosophy's really just based on the Puritan work ethic (something that's pushed to ensure a culture of slavery) and American individualism (something that's pushed to ensure division among the masses... and, of course, to reinforce the Puritan work ethic).

Look! The division of wealth remains extremely imbalanced. Why am I not surprised?


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Rexie Sun, October 25, 2009 - 3:20 PM by Rexie

"Is there something unsavory about responsibility, cares, and not doing whatever?"

Not at all. I think we are all fretting over what type of work is best for us because we dont want to do nothing. But in being responsible we need to also be responsible for ourselves, and that encompasses being true to oourself, finding a fulfilling path for our natural inclinations and talents. It would be irresponsible for us to betray those aspects of ourselves by not caring, sitting our lives away at a job that is unsuited for us. Each of us would be depriving the world of our unique gifts that we were born to manifest, be it writing a great novel, or our amazing spread sheet creating skills. :)


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Rexie Sun, October 25, 2009 - 3:31 PM by Rexie

"Rexie, this is an interesting question. I would like to know more specifically what you thought about the value system and what your opinions were. How did you base your opinions that were different from others?"

Well when I was younger I never understood peoples value judgements on physical appearance, wealth, and background. It never made any sense to me. For example, standards of beauty, I never understood it. I always saw people as uniquely beautiful, and beauty as a broad concept. A girl with glasses and short hair wasnt less beautiful than the girl w/o glasses and long hair..their beauty was just different. But I think we are trained to respond to signals and symbols..so symbolically long hair is considered beautiful..etc. This type of misunderstanding on my part created a lot of confusion for me. Now that I'm older I understand the general reasoning behind these value systems, but sometimes I still have a hard time relating or even interacting with people about them. I just fake like I agree to make my life easier.


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Rexie Sun, October 25, 2009 - 3:39 PM by Rexie

"aquarians seem to dream up things and the follow up is difficult, because that requires actual effort, "

That can be true at times, but the other side of it is..if what you dream is outside the boundaries of what exists..how can you properly implement it? When the world only speaks Finnish, and you speak Italian, the disconnect creates a barrier to actualizing your ideas, and it is not due to a lack of effort.
I think the misunderstanding around what Aquarians (maybe not all, but some) want to achieve, our standard of success, is not the same as an earth signs, or fire, or waters signs.


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Damien Sun, October 25, 2009 - 4:18 PM by Damien

then employ your self,,,what would you do if you had a company
and employees and they started doing something that wasn't up
to "company standards" whatever that is,,,,if you don't like a company then leave,,,

Wow Sol! I don't think I ever thought these views before when it came to employment and life. I would like to think Aquarians are better than "employees that weren't up to company standards." All the Aquarians I've worked with in the past have been great. Sure we get upset, but "if you don't like a company then leave..." is a way of giving up. That should be the last resort. From planet Earth down to your job, the world is a screwed up place. I believe we should come up with ways to fix it to make it better. Earth's falling apart, should we just leave?

"aquarians seem to dream up things and the follow up is difficult, because that requires actual effort,"

That is the sign of the Aquarius. We are the muse, if you will, of life. We will of course put in Actual Effort. We just feel once we've done something full speed ahead for awhile, it's time to move on.

an interest takes time to master,,,and the fuel that keeps it going is effort, curiosity, and desire,,,
if you give up or find something else to grab your attention then thats up to the individual,,,

Aquarians are more "Jack of All Trades." We do have the fuel for effort, curiosity, and desire. Sure, it is up to the Aquarian "individual" on how far they take something, but it won't ever be in the "give up" catagory. It will be when they feel their time is done here and they're ready to move on to something else.

There is something to say about the Libra sign, like yourself, that is different from the Aquarian sign. I've worked with a few older Libra's. They do "master" their job. There great. That's why they share the same attitude you have. Hard work and steadiness. The scales weigh themselves out. I'm sure they believe Aquarians are to "flighty" for them. Aquarians come and go, were as Libras stay, mastering there position. They make their "comfort zone" and stay there.

without having an attitude, and
a feeling that the universe owes you something,,,

I know for certain that Aquarian's do not have the attitude that the universe owes them something. We are too busy making our own universe. That is probably why we are always at odds withourselves. While we're doing one thing, we think we should be doing something else. That is why the original question is, "what are Aquarians most geared for?"


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Bill Sun, October 25, 2009 - 5:50 PM by Bill

«I like what you had to say Bill. I feel like I'm in a mid-life crisis. For the last 10 years. I also have a major problem of doing a job because of money, and not doing what I want to do (which I still don't know what that is either). I did read that Aquarians are most likely to make under $35,000 a year because they believe in doing a job they love, compared to doing a job for money. That wasn't to appealing to read that.»

Damien,

I've had pretty much the same issues. I had moved away from NYC a little more than 10 years ago, and moved back almost two years later. Even though I was back where I was born and raised, I felt like I was starting over. I was able to find work and make a decent salary, but I was only doing it because something was better than nothing. I was making more than $35,000, but it felt as if I had given up part of my soul. I, too, share your discomfort with what you read about Aquarian salaries...especially now since I have been unemployed since July 2008.

I agree with what you said about Aquarians being so much more than the labels used to define them. I feel really weird when I need to tell people what I do. I don't feel that what I do determines who I am...it's not the complete picture of me.


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amiablehermit Sun, October 25, 2009 - 5:53 PM by

I agree with Sol.

And creating your own job is not the same as the "create your own reality" spiel. Some of the most fulfilled and successful people I know of all signs are those who have cobbled together businesses that suit them and and their interests while they are the masters of their own domains ~ not following the usually arbitrary rules of some organization that really views its employees as expendable and totally replaceable.


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Attie Sun, October 25, 2009 - 9:04 PM by Attie

ages 9-11

For me, there are a mix of memories about school, taking care of others (young children and animals), hospitals, and doctors. Things I liked back then, math, reading, writing, music, folkdance, building things, cooking, crafts, being in the library, walking, and so on and so forth.

I'm not geared towards any special career. I just do the best that I can with what tools I have and aquire and apply to life circumstances and situations.

I may have been a bit more optomistic in years gone by, and there are many moments and possiblities to come.


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exio Mon, October 26, 2009 - 8:57 AM by

"That can be true at times, but the other side of it is..if what you dream is outside the boundaries of what exists..how can you properly implement it? When the world only speaks Finnish, and you speak Italian, the disconnect creates a barrier to actualizing your ideas, and it is not due to a lack of effort.
I think the misunderstanding around what Aquarians (maybe not all, but some) want to achieve, our standard of success, is not the same as an earth signs, or fire, or waters signs."

Beautifully put, Rexie.


"I would like to think Aquarians are better than "employees that weren't up to company standards."

Most certainly... from what I've seen Aquarians are extremely loyal until they feel that it's over. Aquarians made this company's list of signs that they wanted to hire:

www.neatorama.com/2009/02/0...the-stars/


"I know for certain that Aquarian's do not have the attitude that the universe owes them something. We are too busy making our own universe."

No... the universe doesn't owe me anything. But if I put my time and energy into someone's business, I expect my fair cut... honest work for honest pay. I know damn well that I'm a good worker. But that had better be appreciated.


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exio Mon, October 26, 2009 - 9:27 AM by

Yes.. starting your own business does require effort... and also time and resources. So, if I wasn't born into those resources, I have to work for them, which I'm willing to do. But then you go and work this job, use up your time, and still end up not being paid enough to get those resources. So now, much of your time and energy are gone and you still don't have the resources you need to do what you want. I've run my own businesses... it's not just as simple as "start your own business". And there are alot of things can cause them to fail besides not following through... a lack of time and resources is likely the most common one.

And some people just aren't going to create their own business. This isn't a bad thing. People who can follow directions are just as necessary to our culture as the "leaders". Most of the greatest advancements have come from people working together. It's just too bad that we're still in the habit of "worshiping the Alphas". This is where the imbalances come from. And this is why alot of people who might start their own business are unable to.


"And creating your own job is not the same as the "create your own reality" spiel."

Umm... "We are all all authors of our own lives"? I could be wrong, but that to me sounds a little more like the "create your own reality" spiel than just talking about creating your own job.


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amiablehermit Mon, October 26, 2009 - 10:02 AM by

Well, I take the "create your own reality" thing as being a mind set thing, whereas a business is a business.

I am not saying that everyone is cut out to be self-employed, but when you have had enough of working for other people, that is usually the option you choose.


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Rexie Mon, October 26, 2009 - 10:51 AM by Rexie

"I am not saying that everyone is cut out to be self-employed, but when you have had enough of working for other people, that is usually the option you choose."

I think what Exio is trying to say is that creating your own business is an ideal situation, but not always an option for everyone. You have to have the socioeconomic resources to be able to reach that level of ownership. It is assuming that we are all starting from a level playing field, which unfortunately is not the case. In assuming that, we give more credit to those who reach those business goals as: harder working, more focused and driven individuals...when that is not always the case. There is a combination of that, no doubt, but usually an even bigger factor to that type of success is about access to resources.


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amiablehermit Mon, October 26, 2009 - 11:34 AM by

I understand what Exio is saying, and I also said it is not for everyone. However, it can sure beat a miserable situation where you are doing something you don't like for people you can't stand in a company that sucks.

I also know that it doesn't necessarily require a whole lot of capital to get a business started, depending on what you do. I had a business that required basically the tools I already had, some business cards and brochures ~ which these days you can produce yourself with a computer and a printer ~ some postage stamps and mailers, and a spare room in the house. I am getting ready to get into re-tooling myself to start a new business, which will require some capital for training and equipment ~ about as much as you would spend to replace a furnace and water heater. Overhead will be minimal since I will be working again from home. The field is hurting for workers, and demand is increasing with time. I took some research and networking to come up with a plan, and I still have some preliminary investigations to do, but basically it looks like it can work out.

For those of an independent nature who would rather take charge of their destinies (as opposed to "creating their own realities" or leaving it up to other people to decide if you have work or not), it is worth checking out self-employment as an option. It doesn't have to be expenseive to get going, and it can free you up for your own life if you are sensible about it.


Re: What careers are we most geared for?

Rexie Mon, October 26, 2009 - 12:02 PM by Rexie

"For those of an independent nature who would rather take charge of their destinies "

That type of statement is why I thought you misinterpreted. Obviously we all have access to a computer, language access, and probably dont have much difficulty in providing a roof over our heads..because we are amongst peers. But not everyone has all the necessary resources. I can even state this from my own background, without going into personal details..but much of what we take as a given..accessible to everybody, is not. So when it is not accessible for everyone, how can you confer qualities of independence and take chargeness on people who achieve, in this instance business ownership, when some start out at point A, and another starts out at point G.

Im not trying to start a disagreement, but I really do believe there are some fundamental differences in being successful because you have access, and being successful, not because of your access, but because of your resourcefulness.

"it is worth checking out self-employment as an option. It doesn't have to be expenseive to get going, and it can free you up for your own life if you are sensible about it."

For those that do have some free time, and extra cash, this is a great approach.


Re: What careers are we most geared for?

amiablehermit Mon, October 26, 2009 - 1:30 PM by

Or for those of us who are unemployed and have the time that way.

For the last time ~ I said it is not for everyone.

These days, we have access to computers at public libraries. Many communities have government employment services with computers available. I have used those.

When did this topic about careers devolve into a discussion about having nothing in the way of any resources anyway? Sheesh.

ALL I was saying was that self-employment is a good option for some people, particularly those who are better striking out on their own. And you don't have to be a friggin Aquarian to be that way, either, although it may well appeal to a lot of them, and it is NOT as hard to do as it sounds. Being resourceful also means having some imagination to make an opportunity or to figure out how to do the research to find what is available to craft one.


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exio Mon, October 26, 2009 - 4:10 PM by

Right on again, Rexie.

"When did this topic about careers devolve into a discussion about having nothing in the way of any resources anyway? Sheesh."

When someone came along saying, "then start your own business", apparently assuming that that's an option available to everyone. I, personally, don't see it as a devolution in the conversation. What careers are suitable to an Aquarian (or any human being) is much more easily answered than why are we or why are we not doing that. For some, it may be as simple as a lack of motivation or follow-through. But for others, it's different.

"These days, we have access to computers at public libraries. Many communities have government employment services with computers available. I have used those."

Yes... my 20 minute time slot on a library computer really allows me to get alot done. And those government employment services... same thing... and that, of course, is assuming that you're available to use those computers during their business hours. If you have a day job, they're pretty much useless. And it also assumes that you happen to live in an area where that's available. They're not everywhere... certainly not in the town that I grew up in.

And then, it assumes that internet access is what you need to start your business. Some businesses require other resources... tools, space, etc. Maybe my skills and interests aren't ones that are geared toward an internet based business. So where am I getting the resources that I need?

And that's just the financial element. Some people grew up with a lack of education, a lack of emotional support, a lack of positive role models, etc. Or worse, negative role models, negative emotional conditioning, etc.

In a way, I think it's good to spread a positive message to those who were raised with limited views, i.e. "You can do whatever you set your mind to". But that doesn't mean that you can just ignore the actual reality of people's situations. That's the stuff of advertisements and self-help books... an ego-stroke... hey, it sells. And those who've "achieved" can then say, "See, I did this all on my own", completely taking for granted the things that allowed them to do so. That ego just loves to be stroked.

On a side note... integrity... the boon and the bane of the Aquarian. Not a hot commodity in this disposable world (except to the degree that it can be exploited). But... maybe we can make it work for us somehow. I'm a little jaded, but not completely lacking hope.


Re: What careers are we most geared for?

amiablehermit Mon, October 26, 2009 - 9:14 PM by

Good. You almost had me fooled.


Re: What careers are we most geared for?

exio Tue, October 27, 2009 - 11:47 AM by

I think that anyone who's at all in touch with reality can't help but be a little cynical. And it kinda rubs me the wrong way when people say things like, "If you haven't succeeded, it's all on you." I know damn well that I've worked my ass off to the point of being worn out and run down... and meanwhile watch the people who had a little support breeze through these things. And very few of them seem to realize why they were able to do those things. The few people who have had that privilege and do realize it are, to me, some of the most amazing people in the world. Astrologically, it's the IC/MC axis... the relationship between support and success.

I know that being positive goes a long way. In my early to mid 20's I could've been the poster child for optimism. Then I ran into some pretty hefty roadblocks... the kind that take generations to build. They needed to be de-constructed, and that was a full-time job in itself. So, yes, there is some truth in the idea that "we create our own reality". But it's not that cut and dry. Some people have a few less roadblocks and a lot more help in "creating their reality" than others. And I know that there are people who are far worse off than me... I'm actually a pretty lucky person, all things considered.

All in all, I guess I'm grateful, in a sense. Before that I would've been one to say, "We are all gods" or "We create our own reality". It just took a little hubris to make me accept my own mortality. Saturn unleashed his wrath on my natal Jupiter.

OK... I'll shut up now. I'm really talkative today.


Re: What careers are we most geared for?

amiablehermit Tue, October 27, 2009 - 1:56 PM by

No, exio. You don't need to shut up, nor do I want you to.

I totally hear what you are saying and agree with you, but we are not "they." We are in your boat. I certainly don't believe in any "Secret" shit that makes victims out of people who aren't mind-fuckers, which is how they come across to me. I have a tough time with a "RL" friend over that one ~ to the point where I just sort of nicely told her to fuck off and leave me alone ~ I'd be in touch again when I felt like it. Sometimes you just have to do that.

But I don't see this as like that here. What I see is just the old thing of if you don't fit, it ain't working, and you have a chance ~ make it up. It might just work. And I know not everyone who might want to can do that, but some who haven't tried yet might be able to do that, you know. Maybe they just never considered it or didn't have the courage to try even though they had the wherewithall to do so. I don't know. Neither do you or any of the rest of us, but it floats out there as an option. And with some people all it might take is seeing it as a viable option.


Re: What careers are we most geared for?

Attie Tue, October 27, 2009 - 2:00 PM by Attie

Ah, the joy of; reality check or repeating reality checks. <tongue in cheek>

Having had my fill of these, the rebuilding process seems to take a little longer each time.


Re: What careers are we most geared for?

amiablehermit Tue, October 27, 2009 - 2:28 PM by

Wonderful. I have no clue what you are talking about. But that's fine.


Re: What careers are we most geared for?

Attie Tue, October 27, 2009 - 2:33 PM by Attie

My post wasnt in response to your post, amiable.


Re: What careers are we most geared for?

Sol Tue, October 27, 2009 - 2:36 PM by Sol

being the author of your own life isn't some new age stuff,,,
tho I do know that there are choices everyday and an individual has to choose,,,the choice is writing your life, as you, the individual sees fit, given the circumstances,,,

being a victim and complaining about the corporate world doesn't mean much to those who learn to live outside a system,,,people have been doing this for ages,,,

also money isn't good or bad,,,its a medium,,,its neutral, tho it makes people nuts

and theoretically, we can only give 100%,,,110 % means that you are wasting energy by over-compensating,,,

and grow up,,,not everyone is going to give you as pat on the back, or a gold star, for a job well done,,,most people are absorbed in their own life,,,and a lot of aquarians are self absorbed,,,when do you give someone credit,,,

sometimes things fall apart and then go together again,,,many successful people have failed, but they lived through the adversity,,,this isn't new age stuff,,,read the biographies of people thru the ages,,,who persisted despite adversity,,,


Re: What careers are we most geared for?

amiablehermit Tue, October 27, 2009 - 2:38 PM by

Did it have to be? And you sure didn't specify.


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amiablehermit Tue, October 27, 2009 - 2:40 PM by

Totally, Sol.

I know exactly what you mean.


Re: What careers are we most geared for?

Attie Tue, October 27, 2009 - 2:58 PM by Attie

Thanks for the post, Sol.


Re: What careers are we most geared for?

Attie Tue, October 27, 2009 - 8:04 PM by Attie

Have you noticed aquarians are just regular people, just like anyone else who may go by another sign?


Re: What careers are we most geared for?

Rexie Tue, October 27, 2009 - 9:27 PM by Rexie

Exio, maybe we are in agreement because of our inverse sun, and ascendant signs?


Re: What careers are we most geared for?

Sol Wed, October 28, 2009 - 4:48 PM by Sol

sometimes not knowing a persons sign leaves us to have an opening
for peoples individuality ,,, without pre-concieved notions,,,I tend to not
ask a persons birthdate till I get to know them somewhat, then i will notice the combinations
and the flavors of individuality in them,,,sort of like going to a picni
and seeing what each person brings to the table,,,,I do tend to enjoy women
with wild minds and depth, so that usually includes aquarians, some geminis and
especially if they have strong water and fire influences


Re: What careers are we most geared for?

exio Wed, October 28, 2009 - 5:31 PM by

"being a victim and complaining about the corporate world doesn't mean much to those who learn to live outside a system,,,people have been doing this for ages,,,"

Ummm... outside what system? Do you use money? Then you are fully tied into the system. Any products that were built within "the system" (i.e. your computer)? Public roads? I could go on and on. I'd be willing to bet that you live pretty well "inside the system" when you look around you. And to me, that entails taking some responsibility for how that system operates.


"and grow up,,,not everyone is going to give you as pat on the back, or a gold star, for a job well done"

I think we were talking about getting paid fairly and being treated like a human being. I think it's a pretty grown up thing to see that there are wrongs in our culture and to try to change them. Imho, much more grown up than deluding yourself into believing that you're an island and ignoring injustice.


"the choice is writing your life, as you, the individual sees fit, given the circumstances,,, "

As far as I can tell, that's exactly what every single person alive is doing every single day.


Re: What careers are we most geared for?

exio Wed, October 28, 2009 - 5:47 PM by

Yeah... could definitely be the Scorpio element... not the type to ignore the dark and dirty side of life. And no lack of wanting to do something about it either.


Re: What careers are we most geared for?

Solve Omnis Fri, October 30, 2009 - 11:27 AM by Solve O...

Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.

...the only career that i seem to be suited for is that of Agitator

Love is the law, love under will.


Re: What careers are we most geared for?

Dary Wed, November 11, 2009 - 2:35 PM by Dary

Totally agreed, I'm a lawyer but im interested in international law, human rights, absolutely I'd love to do diplomatic work sometime.

I'm so into technology too, im good at fixing electronics and computers tho.

Guess I'm multitask, and many of u might be too.


Re: What careers are we most geared for?

David Thu, November 12, 2009 - 2:07 PM by David

Well Damien Aquarius is the sign of change... And we are changing of what we want to become almost every year...Thing is that Aquarius is blessed with making their wishes true and many change careers out the blues.. For example i wanted 2 be a guitar player etc And i end up being an astrologer.. So basically we are unaware of what we really want to be in the future.....


From ur astrologer at www.astromaher.com


Re: What careers are we most geared for?

Jen Thu, November 12, 2009 - 10:14 PM by Jen

I'll let you all know when I grow up.. I have worked in hospitality for 10 years, got my real estate agents training, am a registered nurse..

..and am unemployed coz I don't know what I wanna be...

:)