Do you find yourself with few or no friends at all?

topic posted Mon, November 10, 2008 - 7:53 AM by  Shells
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This has been my life story. I don't understand it. I try to befriend people but their not interested in being friends with ME. I mean, seems I have a lot of laughs with others but when it comes to someone wanting to get close to me...nope.

So in my family, I'm literally known as the "hermit". Guess that's just the cards I was dealt. Don't get me wrong, I like my solitude, but sometimes it makes me sad.

How about you?
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Shells
Ohio
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  • I have very few good friends... a lot of whom I just don't trust anymore. I trust about 2 people.

    I think you need to look through your chart. You may find something, and be able to narrow it down to a more specfic tribe.

    For myself, My aquarian sun is squared by ascendant, saturn, and mars. All from the twelve house in scorpio. I'm also a scorpio rising. That contributes to my mind-made prison.

    Also my thoughts are very unstable. Uranus in the first house opposes my Gemini Moon in the 7th. I only get interested in people who are completely off the wall. Which doesnt help my stability with people in the long run.

    I consider myself a social loner. Someone with people skills, but someone who never gets close.
    • You do have some interesting aspects. A Scorpio Aquarius. Do you have your chart posted?
      • Posted my chart. I used to think I was cursed until I started looking into astrology
        • i liked this,

          "Sometimes I believe THAT'S why people draw back from me because they KNOW I can see right through them and their deceiving introductions"

          scorpio moons and especially pluto moons tend to have that influence. getting GUT reactions from other people.

          which i absolutely hate.

          many, many times ive taken pride on my persona and that however i am and whatever ive been through has been meant to make the person i am know.

          thing is, i was probably only neglecting the fact i completely hate myself. OK, maybe not completely, but im sure as hell id give up this whole scorpio, introspective thing to be just as mean, ugly and fake as everybody else.

          why is it such a curse to be self aware!? i need people just as everybody else and seeing right through them and their deceiving introductions SUCK to let people come closer.

          id rather prefer to be deceived over and over again like the normal mortal rather than knowing (or feeling) beforehand just what kind of person im with, get away (or make them go away, or not letting them get closer, by default) and not be deceived at all.

          fuck this scorpio/pluto thing
  • More specific tribe? I don't understand.

    I have my chart posted in my photos but it's for friends only. I have NO idea how to read it. I know nothing about moons and houses and other signs involved with me. I really wish I had someone to read them and tell me little about ME.

    :(
    • Shells~

      If you are willing to share your chart, there is a great group in astronuts that I am sure would be happy to tell you about it. I hang out there a lot, and there are a few excellent professional astrologers there who give wonderful insights. Go ahead and post a thread there having to do with YOUR experience as an Aquarius. I am sure you will get feedback. I'll put in my bit, too, if you like.
      • Mm..

        Same experience here, but i might be seeing a pattern. im also a scorpio aquarius. aqu sun/scorp moon.

        again, is this a pattern?

        i befriends with everyone, am very polite and liked, whatever, i have 2852'058 acquaintances, but when its about getting close to someone... Nope.

        I utterly fail.

        Which is, again, why im seen like "the hermit" in my family. WHICH WOULDNT BE THE CASE ONLY IF people would like to get close to me. idk why. everythings just fabulous shallowly... but... how about deeply?

        is this a scorp/aqu pattern?
        • I think it is an interesting question. The dominant Scorpio Moon person in my life utterly broke my heart, but I also knew that he was in the throes of not knowing what to make of me in a sense. So he made of me someone I wasn't, but a hybrid of others he had known. It was very frustrating for me to see him do this and, valiantly though I tried, make no headway in revealing him to himself. Subsequently, I have made quite a study of the Scorpio Moon, which I consider to be an archetype, as is clearly shown in the old Tarot trump. But I know I am still learning about them.

          And hey, I am a Leo ~ yet I am most definitely a hermit ~ albeit an amiable one.
          • I don't really have friends to hang out with...there are a few guys at work (mostly aquariuses and scorpio) that im buddies with...and online buddies and animal and nature friends too...Its hard to find people that understand me or make me feel totally accepted without judgment. I appear extremely independant and people dont seem to realize i need to recieve support at times.
            • Yes, I've been told that as well. That I come across as being very independent, secure and confidant. I've even been told that, at first, I seem like a bitch. But when they allowed themselves to get to know me they said I was quite the opposite. (true, very true)

              Maybe our outside appearance is a protective covering so our heart, which is deeper than the sea, will not be hurt.

              It's funny that all of those things are thought of me when I actually am needy just like anyone else, insecure and many, many times unsure of the life that surrounds me. I need people too.

              I don't know, it's a mystery to me and I suppose I've inwardly labeled myself TO myself an untouchable person because that's how people have been with me all my life, and it's sad. The longing to have...well, never mind, *breath out*, it's a drawn out story from an old, old book.

              *hanging head*
              • I'm like LOUIS. When I meet people I'm outgoing, kind, considerate, respectful. I do walk cautiously because people can be so mean, ugly & fake.

                Sometimes I believe THAT'S why people draw back from me because they KNOW I can see right through them and their deceiving introductions. They realize they can't play me like they play most.
                • Unsu...
                   
                  How about being a friend to yourself?

                  When you require a hug, hug yourself as long as you want to, when you need to laugh with someone laugh loudly with yourself, when you need a shoulder to cry upon, cry with yourself. Sometimes I think people can be afraid of their own feelings, so I'm thinking learning how to express what you need or feel with yourself can be something to explore. I know this is a truth for myself.

                  If its wanky to be with oneself, then of course its going to wanky being around other people. Course being wanky can be interesting sometimes.
  • What do you do to change that?

    Fri, December 19, 2008 - 12:33 AM
    Okay, I'll bite.

    Aquarius folk in general seem to have this issue in common; what I'd like to know is what you do to change that for yourself?

    For me, I struggle with conversations sometimes; small talk is not really my forte' I guess..... It seems like "other people" have it easier in bonding with friends, new and old, and I often end up feeling like the 'outsider'. Something I really don't like. At the same time, I can't push myself on people, and wouldn't want to anyway.

    I too am very much the loner, and like my solitude to nurture my heart and soul, but at times when I don't want to be alone I loathe feeling lonely.

    I find that the best remedy has been to step out of my box and throw myself out there; when I make the effort, I'm usually well received. But like so many others here, it's the quality of the friendship that I don't often trust. Even so, I'm learning to not place expectations on others, and that by putting myself out there, the more I do it the easier it becomes.


    • Re: What do you do to change that?

      Fri, December 19, 2008 - 8:15 PM
      I'm very much of an outgoing person. The first to greet someone, to kid around to lighten the air, one who jokes with everyone and feels that no one is above anyone else, I don't care HOW much money you have. In my eyes, everyone is equal and I'm the one who includes the un-includable. (if you know what I mean) Yeah, I'm the one who steps up to the plate first, but I'm also the one who doesn't have any friends. Probably because the people I feel I want to befriend always end up, excuse my language, fucking me over. No, don't tell me I need to choose better friends, that's not it at all. People are so freakin' ugly these days. No one knows how to treat and respect each other, it makes me sick.

      I get tired at times, tired of making the effort. I tell myself, I ain't doin' it anymore, I'm gonna be shitty just like they are but it never works out that way...I'm still kind. Not boasting, it's just the way it is, the way I was raised.

      What I've come to realize is that "ugly" people don't like real, honest, nice people and they won't even take a second glance at befriending you because they need their own kind. The few people that do like me are down right "good people". So there you have it...the world ain't filled with much of the good stuff so if I don't have any of it...that's ok!!!!
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        Re: What do you do to change that?

        Fri, December 19, 2008 - 8:27 PM
        I get along with and can connect with all different types of people, in groups or otherwise quite easily without too much effort

        I can play the room and the crowd quite well and readily. I am also a wallflower, preferring to look at the art on the wall, or observe other things and people from outside the center. Sometimes I will wander away from groups for awhile

        I tend to socialize in this mixed fashion most often

        AND

        I don't really have a desire to get real tight and deep with hordes of people.

        I find it kinda taxing.

        I prefer to connect more deeply with fewer folks.

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